Qu3sti0nMark - Not shore if deserves jail.. PLEASE READ!

[Qu3sti0nMark]

creeper2223 wrote:

super_man011 wrote:I will post snapshots when i am on my computer tomorrow. I am currently on my iPad and i was on my computer at the time of the incident.

I have been jailed for more then a day. It is only 3 h. It will be over before you no it.
Hopefully you have learnt your lesson.

Still waiting on those screenshots..

you know he said that....20 mins ago dave XD

[creeper2223]

Qu3sti0nMark wrote:

creeper2223 wrote:

super_man011 wrote:I will post snapshots when i am on my computer tomorrow. I am currently on my iPad and i was on my computer at the time of the incident.

I have been jailed for more then a day. It is only 3 h. It will be over before you no it.
Hopefully you have learnt your lesson.

Still waiting on those screenshots..

you know he said that....20 mins ago dave XD

Oh crap I looked at wrong date xD

[Jamourous]

Can I firstly say something to you both... SHUT UP, you both are in the wrong here, and I am sick of the arguing here. Alright, time to weigh in.

This by the sounds of it, is a case of harsh punishment, versus a troller. I'll go through this crime by crime.

1st Offence - 'Equipping' god armour: We all know that this isn't the main problem here, but since super_man brought it up, I may as well say: Jake has not ONCE asked for spawned items to be given for free. If he did, I would be very surprised...

2nd Offence - Spamming and Caps: This is more believable. I already know Jake to be one of the most short-tempered people I have ever met. His constant spamming gets on everyone's nerves. But when asked to stop, he generally complies. I am also curious whether the 'spamming' in question is Jake telling super_man that he is not a staff member. If this was the spamming in question, it was right and justified, as super_man is known to be stubborn.

3rd Offence - super_man not providing adequate warning - Saying that you 'tried' to, or 'it did nothing' is not an excuse. Incompetence of commands is not Jake's fault, it is super_man's. I do agree though, that a kick would have been appropriate for the situation. (And for the record, it is /ekick, so you can provide a reason. Obsidians DO NOT have this command)

4th Offence - Swearing - This is a no-brainer. I wasn't even there and I can almost guarantee he did swear. In fact, the way he asked me to post here involved an S word, and F word and a verbal harassment regarding my ability to post here ("If you can even be ******").As said above, Jake is a short tempered individual. But, Digus (I'm assuming you mean dingus) is not among swear words we try to avoid, in fact, I even use dingus as a lighter way to say 'idiot'. The S word, is something we do frown upon, but after repeated, and deliberate uses, like what was apparently seen in this case.

5th Offence - Acting like twelvies on the forums - We get it, you both suffer from 'OMG, I'm 12 now, I can do what I want!' syndrome. The use of words such as 'get over it' and 'too bad' proves this to me.
Let's break this down into wrongs and rights.

super_man:
Wrongs - Lack of warning, enflaming a preventable argument (Really, you have /enchant, and /i, he doesn't, just make him what is fully able, and make him pay an extremely large amount for it), Apparent lying (Staff rank and in report) and immaturity on the forums
Rights + Use of powers (If you are an Obby, the use of jail is the only real tool), Correct Reporting Techniques (but not content, the grammar is terrible) and refusal to be pushed by big bully Jake. Seriously, this is all I can commend you on here.

But don't get too cosy Jake:

Qu3sti0nMark:
Wrongs - Bullying to get something easy obtainable through the enchantment shop, Starting a preventable argument (if he says no, don't be a dick about it), Repeated swearing, spamming and caps. Enflaming and over-reacting to the argument (see previous point) terrible use of forums (repeated sexting and explicit comments) and being a general nuisance to many members of the server.
Rights: Playing on McTopia?

Jake deserved a jail, especially if it was the only command usable, but the way super_man conducted himself on the report suggests he is not 100% truthful, and is just using the 'I said it happened, so it certainly did, and I'm going to punish you for it' defence for a frankly over the top reaction. The original 30 minutes was appropriate, but 3 hours is excessive.

[Qu3sti0nMark]

No i was not asking for God armour for free. i was though asking for to pay it.
and Yes i swore when i was talking to you jam, and yes i said the S word. but that was for a whole different reason (involving an enderman). but i can honestly say that i was not excessive cussing or losing my temper...this time? i knew he was probably going to report me so i kept my cool but other then that shtufss.
you are completley right. and. yeah thankyou for your very well thought out message and it means a lot to me,

[Qu3sti0nMark]

* Acting like twelvies on the forums - We get it, you both suffer from 'OMG, I'm 12 now, I can do what I want!' syndrome. *
woahhohoho HO big boy.i was just making fun of that like. yesterday on the forums...... just woah

[super_man011]

ill upload screenshots know " title="Smile">

[Burritobrine1]

Jamourous wrote:Can I firstly say something to you both... SHUT UP, you both are in the wrong here, and I am sick of the arguing here. Alright, time to weigh in.

This by the sounds of it, is a case of harsh punishment, versus a troller. I'll go through this crime by crime.

1st Offence - 'Equipping' god armour: We all know that this isn't the main problem here, but since super_man brought it up, I may as well say: Jake has not ONCE asked for spawned items to be given for free. If he did, I would be very surprised...

2nd Offence - Spamming and Caps: This is more believable. I already know Jake to be one of the most short-tempered people I have ever met. His constant spamming gets on everyone's nerves. But when asked to stop, he generally complies. I am also curious whether the 'spamming' in question is Jake telling super_man that he is not a staff member. If this was the spamming in question, it was right and justified, as super_man is known to be stubborn.

3rd Offence - super_man not providing adequate warning - Saying that you 'tried' to, or 'it did nothing' is not an excuse. Incompetence of commands is not Jake's fault, it is super_man's. I do agree though, that a kick would have been appropriate for the situation. (And for the record, it is /ekick, so you can provide a reason. Obsidians DO NOT have this command)

4th Offence - Swearing - This is a no-brainer. I wasn't even there and I can almost guarantee he did swear. In fact, the way he asked me to post here involved an S word, and F word and a verbal harassment regarding my ability to post here ("If you can even be ******").As said above, Jake is a short tempered individual. But, Digus (I'm assuming you mean dingus) is not among swear words we try to avoid, in fact, I even use dingus as a lighter way to say 'idiot'. The S word, is something we do frown upon, but after repeated, and deliberate uses, like what was apparently seen in this case.

5th Offence - Acting like twelvies on the forums - We get it, you both suffer from 'OMG, I'm 12 now, I can do what I want!' syndrome. The use of words such as 'get over it' and 'too bad' proves this to me.
Let's break this down into wrongs and rights.

super_man:
Wrongs - Lack of warning, enflaming a preventable argument (Really, you have /enchant, and /i, he doesn't, just make him what is fully able, and make him pay an extremely large amount for it), Apparent lying (Staff rank and in report) and immaturity on the forums
Rights + Use of powers (If you are an Obby, the use of jail is the only real tool), Correct Reporting Techniques (but not content, the grammar is terrible) and refusal to be pushed by big bully Jake. Seriously, this is all I can commend you on here.

But don't get too cosy Jake:

Qu3sti0nMark:
Wrongs - Bullying to get something easy obtainable through the enchantment shop, Starting a preventable argument (if he says no, don't be a dick about it), Repeated swearing, spamming and caps. Enflaming and over-reacting to the argument (see previous point) terrible use of forums (repeated sexting and explicit comments) and being a general nuisance to many members of the server.
Rights: Playing on McTopia?

Jake deserved a jail, especially if it was the only command usable, but the way super_man conducted himself on the report suggests he is not 100% truthful, and is just using the 'I said it happened, so it certainly did, and I'm going to punish you for it' defence for a frankly over the top reaction. The original 30 minutes was appropriate, but 3 hours is excessive.

Jam, Thank you! Stop fighting and you can both agree you did wrongs and rights. I did SUGGEST 3 hours on Skype for an example in jailing because he had never done it before and I made the mistake of thinking what Qu3sti0n (apparently) did was worse than it actually was so I suggested not knowing it wasn't as bad as I thought. Sorry if that had an impact on this but I didn't say he had to use 3h, I said whatever you want.

[Burritobrine1]

Qu3sti0nMark wrote:

Burritobrine1 wrote:

Qu3sti0nMark wrote:XD yah. thats tots erry thin that happnd

Dude, do not use slang on the forums. If this player says you did it and edit in screenshots, I will believe him.

If he adds in screenshots you will most likely see me saying you are not staff twenty thousand times.

Wouldn't that be spam lol? Twenty thousand times is a lot of spam... xD

[Burritobrine1]

super_man011 wrote:ill upload screenshots know " title="Smile">

Great!

[super_man011]

OK GUYS STOP!! HE IS OUT OF JAIL KNOW:

1. i didnt lie
2. read my whole report: I gave him 3 warnings. That is all i need to do. Three warnings, if he continues he does the time.
3. Burrito said sorry to me for sugesting that jail time.
4. i said sorry for putting too many hours in. SORRY!