Spawning Rank

[Jamourous]

Right now, as it stands, the economy on McTopia needs a serious overhaul. One way is this spawning rank review. I agree with most of the points made (removal of power) and I can advocate that.

I also agree that spawning ranks should be more limiting. It genuinely makes me furious when people get SD before they get trusted. I acknowledge that they want to contribute to the server's upkeep, so I'm not saying a change needs to happen there, but later on. Meta's point, which I have agreed with for ages, but didn't become vocal for, at the risk of being called a hypocrite, is:

Metazard wrote:I don't like people buying power.

I admit, I play minecraft for the wrong reasons. I enjoy building, but I can't do survival. That's the reason I bought Obsidian, for the /god command. The /i command is simply a convenience, and I have only realistically used it for around 10, big projects. The /jail command, I felt I had the responsibility to use, because I had it at my disposal. If I didn't, I would have helped the server in other ways.

Back to the main point. SD's, at the moment, are over powered. I have said it once, and I will say it again. Why do SD's have the ability to set warps and change the weather? They basically rule over the mods, and I am thankful none do. This power disadvantage is key when the SD majority feel they are invincible because "I donated, and I can't get banned". They are the main offenders to 'helping' their friends, and thus making the value of iron drop harder than a Skrillex song.

This point comes up once in a while, and I think Matt, Me, and now Slurpie have said it. This time, let's actually implement this, even as a temporary trial:

xXSlurpieXx wrote:Uhm. Ok...
I feel like there should be two new ranks. A "backup" VIP Obsidian, and a "backup" Superdonator.
Those would have almost the same prefix, but would contain a letter or different color or something to distinguish them.
As soon as they break any sort of spawning rule, their rank is demoted to the corresponding sub-rank.
This sub-rank would lose /jail, /mute, /i, /gm c, etc...

There's my two cent's. Take it as you will.

[mattjtv]

How about "3 strikes, you're out" kind of way. I they abuse /item three times, they get demoted to Member.

[Metazard]

mattjtv wrote:How about "3 strikes, you're out" kind of way. I they abuse /item three times, they get demoted to Member.

Nigh impossible to track.

The system works like this:
VIP-Obsidian + print money. There is no way to track it other than people getting large sums of it from seemingly no where. How do we stop them from printing money and giving it to people?

We stop them from printing money.

[zombielover99]

Metazard wrote:

I don't like people buying power.

^^^^^^^^^^Agreed. It's just like if you could buy your way into royalty. What would happen then?

[tobiii1004]

Mm...for once I have almost near nothing to say xD

This issue is recurring. But we all know that. So.

I think Jesse's plan should be implemented. It eliminates the Donators who abuse their commands, but keeps the responsible donators eligible for staff with their staff commands, still allowing them to experience the staff commands responsibly.

[mattjtv]

How about the first time they abuse /item, they get demoted to VIP-Diamond.

[zombielover99]

I think we should DEFFINETLY take away /gmc. You have /i /god and /fly or /mc.
The only thing /gmc is good for is gm pvp. *cough* which isn't aloud *cough*

[mattjtv]

zombielover99 wrote:I think we should DEFFINETLY take away /gmc. You have /i /god and /fly or /mc.
The only thing /gmc is good for is gm pvp. *cough* which isn't aloud *cough*

*cough* gm pvp isn't possible *cough*

[xXSlurpieXx]

zombielover99 wrote:

tobiii1004 wrote:^^^^^^
Word, but...

You see, thing is, there's the handful of donators that deserve the staff commands. These donators are usually the ones that actually have a chance at staff, or the donators with loads of experience on the server. It would be unfair to strip them of their commands. I was one of those donators 2 months ago xD

I believe, however, VIP Obsidian should not have staff commands.

The people that deserve them shall have them. Hoe about if someone mis-uses a command too much, it gets taken away. Simple.

That's what I was saying. xD

[xXSlurpieXx]

mattjtv wrote:How about "3 strikes, you're out" kind of way. I they abuse /item three times, they get demoted to Member.

If it was three strikes, and five people do it, boom. Economy is completely ruined again.
It needs to be one time. One time, and you lose the privilege, and don't get it back until the staff feel you're ready.

Jam also said something about people getting SD before trusted. That should be some sort of new thing, where players must get trusted (or be at that certain credibility level) before they donate for anything above VIP - Diamond.
This would be the simplest way to get rid of quite a bit of immature rule breaking.