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lets do some thinking. - Qu3sti0nMark - 2014-02-16

so im sitting on my bed. thinking about harry potter and I realized something. If Fred and George had the marauders map for years. why did they never just look at it and see that ron, whose ment to be in bed but instead with a guy called peter every single night? they should have known.

Also. wouldn't you excpect the most trusted and secret bank in all of. the world. to be a little more protected than to just to be broken in by 3 teenagers and a spell. One spell. and they got into the most secret and safe vault of the. like everything.

Also number 2, no one ever knew anything about the muggle world, they didn't know about rubber ducks. so why couldn't voldermort just gotten a nuke and just dropped it on Hogwarts, all the wizards would have been defensless..= jst get a huge bomb. through the vanishing cabinet BOOM

And lastly what if there is just a huge portrait of Tom Riddle in like. the attic of Hogwarts. so that's a like. a way for voldermort

answer me this cori.


lets do some thinking. - zombielover99 - 2014-02-16

Totally agree
In every show there's that one part where your like "why would you do that?!?!?" Or "why didn't you do that!!!??!????"


lets do some thinking. - challenger410 - 2014-02-16

Qu3sti0nMark wrote:so im sitting on my bed. thinking about harry potter and I realized something. If Fred and George had the marauders map for years. why did they never just look at it and see that ron, whose ment to be in bed but instead with a guy called peter every single night? they should have known.

Also. wouldn't you excpect the most trusted and secret bank in all of. the world. to be a little more protected than to just to be broken in by 3 teenagers and a spell. One spell. and they got into the most secret and safe vault of the. like everything.

Also number 2, no one ever knew anything about the muggle world, they didn't know about rubber ducks. so why couldn't voldermort just gotten a nuke and just dropped it on Hogwarts, all the wizards would have been defensless..= jst get a huge bomb. through the vanishing cabinet BOOM

And lastly what if there is just a huge portrait of Tom Riddle in like. the attic of Hogwarts. so that's a like. a way for voldermort

answer me this cori.

1) Peter helped create the marauder's map, as he was one of the marauders. he know how to hide from it.
2) If voldemort just bombed hogwarts, it would not fulfill his prophecy to fight harry, and become the greatest wizard of all time. And what if he didn't know about bomb either.
3) Tom riddle was not always a bad man, and it would only have had captured him the way he was when the portrait was painted, and all it really could do is... well move picture to picture. Dumbledore stated himself that a portrait of a man is not the same as the actual person, and that's why harry couldn't rely on Albus's portrait after Albus died.


lets do some thinking. - zombielover99 - 2014-02-16

challenger410 wrote:
Qu3sti0nMark wrote:so im sitting on my bed. thinking about harry potter and I realized something. If Fred and George had the marauders map for years. why did they never just look at it and see that ron, whose ment to be in bed but instead with a guy called peter every single night? they should have known.

Also. wouldn't you excpect the most trusted and secret bank in all of. the world. to be a little more protected than to just to be broken in by 3 teenagers and a spell. One spell. and they got into the most secret and safe vault of the. like everything.

Also number 2, no one ever knew anything about the muggle world, they didn't know about rubber ducks. so why couldn't voldermort just gotten a nuke and just dropped it on Hogwarts, all the wizards would have been defensless..= jst get a huge bomb. through the vanishing cabinet BOOM

And lastly what if there is just a huge portrait of Tom Riddle in like. the attic of Hogwarts. so that's a like. a way for voldermort

answer me this cori.

1) Peter helped create the marauder's map, as he was one of the marauders. he know how to hide from it.
2) If voldemort just bombed hogwarts, it would not fulfill his prophecy to fight harry, and become the greatest wizard of all time. And what if he didn't know about bomb either.
3) Tom riddle was not always a bad man, and it would only have had captured him the way he was when the portrait was painted, and all it really could do is... well move picture to picture. Dumbledore stated himself that a portrait of a man is not the same as the actual person, and that's why harry couldn't rely on Albus's portrait after Albus died.

Wow......
Nice


lets do some thinking. - challenger410 - 2014-02-16

I used to be obsessed with Harry Potter, and I'll still defend him :3


lets do some thinking. - zombielover99 - 2014-02-16

challenger410 wrote:I used to be obsessed with Harry Potter, and I'll still defend him :3

Harry Potter is amazing, sadly, I never really got into it.


lets do some thinking. - novastorm42 - 2014-02-16

challenger410 wrote:
Qu3sti0nMark wrote:so im sitting on my bed. thinking about harry potter and I realized something. If Fred and George had the marauders map for years. why did they never just look at it and see that ron, whose ment to be in bed but instead with a guy called peter every single night? they should have known.

Also. wouldn't you excpect the most trusted and secret bank in all of. the world. to be a little more protected than to just to be broken in by 3 teenagers and a spell. One spell. and they got into the most secret and safe vault of the. like everything.

Also number 2, no one ever knew anything about the muggle world, they didn't know about rubber ducks. so why couldn't voldermort just gotten a nuke and just dropped it on Hogwarts, all the wizards would have been defensless..= jst get a huge bomb. through the vanishing cabinet BOOM

And lastly what if there is just a huge portrait of Tom Riddle in like. the attic of Hogwarts. so that's a like. a way for voldermort

answer me this cori.

1) Peter helped create the marauder's map, as he was one of the marauders. he know how to hide from it.
2) If voldemort just bombed hogwarts, it would not fulfill his prophecy to fight harry, and become the greatest wizard of all time. And what if he didn't know about bomb either.
3) Tom riddle was not always a bad man, and it would only have had captured him the way he was when the portrait was painted, and all it really could do is... well move picture to picture. Dumbledore stated himself that a portrait of a man is not the same as the actual person, and that's why harry couldn't rely on Albus's portrait after Albus died.


If he did, he would have fought harry with a nuclear bomb. not a wand. not much of a difference there.


lets do some thinking. - Cori83 - 2014-02-16

Okay, first question. Fred and George do not exactly seem to have watching their little brother sleep as a high priority. There are 280 students at Hogwarts if you use Harry’s dorm as a representative sample, and that’s likely a low estimate, as Harry was born in the middle of a war, which was showing no sign of stopping. Harry’s dorm, therefore, is probably not as populated as other dorms. Rowling seems to have taken population trends into account, as Ron comments in the fifth book (I think it was the fifth) that the sorting seems to get longer every year. There would be a small baby boom after a long, repressive, war, and that appears, so it’s reasonable to assume Harry’s dorm isn’t at full capacity. When you take into account that Hogwarts also has many staff, lots of ghosts, and that the map, if it shows ghosts, and Mrs. Norris, likely also shows all house elves, the thestral herd, pets, all the centaurs, etc. It’s unlikely that Peter Pettigrew would’ve been noticed by the Weasley twins in that mess, especially considering that Peter Pettigrew didn’t become significant until we knew about his role in the death of Lily and James Potter. Before then, he was one of many people that the death eaters supposedly killed when the Weasley twins were three or four years old. Not someone that they would be likely to take note of.

Here's some well written paragraphs about the Marauder's Map: http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/38336/what-kind-of-beings-are-shown-by-the-marauders-map

Chall also makes some points on this, although it’s worth noting that Peter was the least talented marauder by a significant amount, so he likely wasn’t as involved in the creation of the map. In addition, Lupin was able to see Pettigrew on the map when he confiscated the Map from Harry.

As for the bank, goblin culture is very centered on the correct ownership of valuables, and so it was thought that no goblin would ever dare to help a trio of wizards break into a Gringotts vault. Also, I don’t know where you’re getting “one spell” from. There was a magical artifact from literally-freaking-death-himself, multiple disguise spells, polyjuice potion, and lots of knowledge of the inner workings of Gringotts involved, plus manipulation, as Hermione was posing as Bellatrix during a time when confronting a death eater instantly made you a target. That’s hardly “three teenagers and a spell.”

As for Voldemort using a nuclear bomb, Tom Riddle was born in 1926. His first year in Hogwarts was in 1938, and the first research done on nuclear weapons, which I believe was part of the Manhattan Project, was done in 1942. Tom Riddle valued his wizarding heritage, so it’s very likely that by the time there was significant knowledge on the topic of atomic bombs to be found in London Tom Riddle had complete immersed himself in the wizarding world and wouldn’t have been up to date with muggle technology. In addition, he would be far too proud to use muggle technology to beat Harry.

As for a portrait of Tom Riddle, Chall is mostly correct. Portraits show what the portrait “knows” of its subject, so to speak. They can be enchanted to mimic their subject’s behaviors. Headmaster portraits are taught by the headmaster which they portray to hold the opinions of that headmaster so that they are better able to guide the headmaster’s successors. Any portrait of Tom Riddle in Hogwarts would have been painted while he was young and would’ve been an innocent, yet clever and charming, schoolboy, matching the painter’s most likely impression, unless Riddle taught it to be an evil, heritage-obsessed, manipulative… thing.

Here's a source for almost all of the Harry Potter information (specifics, like birth years) that I had to google to answer this: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page


lets do some thinking. - zombielover99 - 2014-02-18

Cori83 wrote:Okay, first question. Fred and George do not exactly seem to have watching their little brother sleep as a high priority. There are 280 students at Hogwarts if you use Harry’s dorm as a representative sample, and that’s likely a low estimate, as Harry was born in the middle of a war, which was showing no sign of stopping. Harry’s dorm, therefore, is probably not as populated as other dorms. Rowling seems to have taken population trends into account, as Ron comments in the fifth book (I think it was the fifth) that the sorting seems to get longer every year. There would be a small baby boom after a long, repressive, war, and that appears, so it’s reasonable to assume Harry’s dorm isn’t at full capacity. When you take into account that Hogwarts also has many staff, lots of ghosts, and that the map, if it shows ghosts, and Mrs. Norris, likely also shows all house elves, the thestral herd, pets, all the centaurs, etc. It’s unlikely that Peter Pettigrew would’ve been noticed by the Weasley twins in that mess, especially considering that Peter Pettigrew didn’t become significant until we knew about his role in the death of Lily and James Potter. Before then, he was one of many people that the death eaters supposedly killed when the Weasley twins were three or four years old. Not someone that they would be likely to take note of.

Here's some well written paragraphs about the Marauder's Map: http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/38336/what-kind-of-beings-are-shown-by-the-marauders-map

Chall also makes some points on this, although it’s worth noting that Peter was the least talented marauder by a significant amount, so he likely wasn’t as involved in the creation of the map. In addition, Lupin was able to see Pettigrew on the map when he confiscated the Map from Harry.

As for the bank, goblin culture is very centered on the correct ownership of valuables, and so it was thought that no goblin would ever dare to help a trio of wizards break into a Gringotts vault. Also, I don’t know where you’re getting “one spell” from. There was a magical artifact from literally-freaking-death-himself, multiple disguise spells, polyjuice potion, and lots of knowledge of the inner workings of Gringotts involved, plus manipulation, as Hermione was posing as Bellatrix during a time when confronting a death eater instantly made you a target. That’s hardly “three teenagers and a spell.”

As for Voldemort using a nuclear bomb, Tom Riddle was born in 1926. His first year in Hogwarts was in 1938, and the first research done on nuclear weapons, which I believe was part of the Manhattan Project, was done in 1942. Tom Riddle valued his wizarding heritage, so it’s very likely that by the time there was significant knowledge on the topic of atomic bombs to be found in London Tom Riddle had complete immersed himself in the wizarding world and wouldn’t have been up to date with muggle technology. In addition, he would be far too proud to use muggle technology to beat Harry.

As for a portrait of Tom Riddle, Chall is mostly correct. Portraits show what the portrait “knows” of its subject, so to speak. They can be enchanted to mimic their subject’s behaviors. Headmaster portraits are taught by the headmaster which they portray to hold the opinions of that headmaster so that they are better able to guide the headmaster’s successors. Any portrait of Tom Riddle in Hogwarts would have been painted while he was young and would’ve been an innocent, yet clever and charming, schoolboy, matching the painter’s most likely impression, unless Riddle taught it to be an evil, heritage-obsessed, manipulative… thing.

Here's a source for almost all of the Harry Potter information (specifics, like birth years) that I had to google to answer this: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page


Uh
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Impressive...
Why does everyone know so much about Harry Potter except meeee?????


lets do some thinking. - Cori83 - 2014-02-18

zombielover99 wrote:Uh
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Impressive...
Why does everyone know so much about Harry Potter except meeee?????

Because you haven't read the seventh book 14 times.